RE: Removing Red Mahogany Stain

>>>Does anyone  have any good suggestion for how I might further
>>>decrease the "red" in the  wood and come closer to the cherry
>>>color.  Even after bleaching it TWICE  the wood is still significantly
>>>darker than what I am trying to achive.
>>>Jeff Johnson

>> To neutralize red, apply a dilute green dye stain.
>> It will kill the red without making it darker. 
>> Jeff Jewitt

> I use to buy Star "Bleachtone" which is designed just for this purpose 
>but  found that a thin lacquer mixture worked just as well for me. The 
>trick is to make the base coat as sheer as possible while still conveying 
>enough of the right color to the wood. The less "painted" the result - the 
>better - allowing the grain pattern and pores to telegraph back through 
>more clearly.
> Bob Olesen


Daniel writes:

I assume that by this time you have used the two-part bleach to lighten
the wood. Your project may even be finished by now.

Star's Bleachtone (now Mohawk has it) can be tinted with some green to
make a tinting/toner spray. Or you can mix your own with a dilute white
base, and then add some green. It is such a milky translucient mix that
if you apply it properly you will not paint out the grain and you will not lose 
much grain definition. It will lighten the wood and kill the red. Your wood will 
develop a light tan look. But if you kick the green to the yellow side by 
adding more yellow -- yellow + blue = green -- then you will get more of a 
blonde effect. Don't use too much yellow or your tinting/toner plus the wood 
will give you a peach -- yellowish + reddish = peachy/flesh.

An excellent article on this process was in Professional Refinishing
Magazine last Spring (that was in the last century, but still this
mellenium) called "Toning In/Toning Out" by Mac Simmons.

As I said, very little graining and wood definition is lost even though the 
process is done with pigmented colorants. You will be surprised at how 
transparent this step really is, especially one you start staining your 
project. This is a pre-staining step.

If you choose to make your own tinting/toner, keep in mind that the resin 
content of this specially mixed stain/finish is extremely low. This is a color 
building step, not a step where you want to build film thickness.
 
Daniel Shafner
CT


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ok....now I'm scratching my head.....
what color do you get when it's wiped down with laq. thinner? 

I'm picturing 2 things here:

1. it's Indonesian import ........good luck.

2. it's been dyed with analine dye ........good luck

I'm not surprised that the contracter used a BELT SANDER with 
probably 60 grit ........ grrrrrrrrr  

What color is that leaf when wet ?

michelle
wood not shop


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