RE: Saving Groop Files

On the topic of getting a big back up drive, the zip sounds good, but the CD 
recordables are getting real cheap, under 200 bucks, and you can back up 
600 megs of data on a $2.00 disk.  Now thats cheap backup!  

KevinHancock


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Daniel writes:

Perhaps if you follow this link, you might find it useful:

http://www.freediskspace.com

This is a website where you can uploadlots of files and documents for
storage. I have not used this website, but it's nice to know that something 
like this is available. I think the deal is that they will send you spam in 
return for giving you storage space on their computers. So if you go to 
any of the umpteen (for Bill More in Australia, "umpteen" is our American 
slang for "gazillion") web-based email accounts and register one for 
yourself just so that you can have a place for them to send their junk 
emails, you may be able to use their services with very little bother. 
But you will have to read the details of their offer.

For users with second class operating systems like mine (Mac OS 8.1),
all we have to do is copy some large folders that normally reside in our
Preferences folder (which is in the system folder) onto a second party
storage device, like a zip disk, and then reload it, allowing it to overwrite 
whatever folder that was created with the update. The overwrite is some-
thing that is done automatically, after pressing the "OK" button in a dialog 
box. That takes a few minutes for the copying onto the zip, and then 
another few mintes for recopying it into the Preferences folder (which is 
in the system folder). 

Please note, fellow Mac users, that gloating and rejoicing in our second
class status is akin to commenting on someone else's car, or criticizing
someone else's workshop. If you notice, I do not gloat about operating
systems. I did once when I was speaking with AlanM, and he explained 
to me some bit of operating system history that cured me of my urge to
gloat. Brag no more about Windows, Mac, or the OS de jur. Let's just 
say that many of us are really enthusiastic users of whatever operating
system we use. That includes the people with WebTV.

Daniel Shafner
CT

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Ozzie,

All Outlook Express folder files are stored with a .dbx extension 
(i.e.Inbox.dbx, Groopmail.dbx, etc...). Simply locate these in C:\Program
Files\Outlook Express\Default User (Start -> Find -> Files; then use *.dbx
in the Named: field) and save them to a floppy.

Then on your new computer once you have IE 5 and Outlook Express working,
immediately copy these files from floppy back to the same directory on the
C: drive - C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\Default User. This will get you
back to where you left off with your folders on the old computer - good
luck.

Russ Ramirez


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There's another option. You could install your old hard drive in your new
computer as a slave drive. Then you can import,copy/paste or drag and drop
as needed. There's a shareware program called Voyager that will allow you to
open both drives in one window. Then you can just drag files from one hard
drive to the appropriate folder on the new hard drive. You don't need it
though. It just makes it a little easier.
 
Once you feel you've salvaged everything you want, re format the old drive,
and then you can use it for full system backups or whatever. I use mine for
music. If you need your old hard drive to stay with your old computer, buy a
new hard drive. And copy your old drive to it and then install it in your
new computer. I've seen 8 gig hard drives for a 100 bucks.
 
That's what I do.

  Mark H.



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AlanM adds:  

Ian Richardson, our techno-weenie/new domain host, cybershomestead.com, 
has been working literally night and day on our new mailinglist software AND 
our new Library/Archiving facility (which I'll tell you about some other time and 
which you will NOT believe how cool it is) -- has been glancing through 
Groopmail as it's going into the new archive -- and what techno-weenie with 
one eye open could resist a question like : How do I save files?

(BTW Ian, we use "techno-weenie" as a term of endearment...)

To Ozzie's question, ian adds:

Alan,

On this topic, yes I have kinda had fun reading the groop library.  

To save the information for Outlook Express and IE's favorites one 
needs to locate the mbx files, they are usually located under 

c:/windows/application data/identities/<directory name>/microsoft/outlook express/  .  

All of the files in that directory will have to be saved.  Once you reinstall 
Outlook Express, then locate the new directory and copy all of the old 
files back into the new directory, over writing the new files.  

For the address books you need to go to 
c:/windows/application data/microsoft/address book/ 
and copy those files in and out.  Outlook Express may not recognize the 
address book, but it does have an import feature that will allow you to 
reimport the address book back into the program.  

For the favorites copy c:/windows/favorites.  And I am talking about all directories 
and files in that area.  Then copy them back after you have installed the Internet 
Explorer and Outlook Express.  Just a reminder DO NOT reinstall any of these 
files with IE or Outlook Express running, it will just over write them when closing, 
and don't do it until after the programs have been installed.  

The ZIP drive would be the best method of storing these files as the Message 
boxes for Outlook Express can become rather large if storing a lot of information.  
My Inbox has between 500 and 600 messages and is about 22 megs in size that 
is just the data file that doesn't include the index file.  Hope this helps out.

Ian



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